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atifsalone

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:21 am    Post subject: White Ducks Breeding Reply with quote

Hi Friends
Can anybody guide me regarding eggs laying of white duck that is called raaj hans or goose. is there any fix season for that or they give eggs whole year. I have 2 pairs of white duck one is laying eggs but other one is not.
And can you please let me know about small ducks as well. I have 3 females and one male the age is 5 months old. In what age they will start breeding?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sara sal breed kerti hy ye duck.
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Muhammad Faisal

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Atif,

Small ducks reach to maturity in four months and lay for almost year around. Their yearly egg capacity is around 200-250 eggs. You may identify males by two huck feathers near tail.

No knowledge of white goose breeding. I only bread small ducks also kept a single crane.


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atifsalone

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:07 am    Post subject: White Ducks Breeding Reply with quote

Mr. Faisal
Thank u Very much for your reply.

Can you please let me know bout egg hatching of small ducks. Do they hatch or not?

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Muhammad Faisal

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Atif,

Small ducks bred like commercial poultry so they never get involve in hatching better go for incubator option. You may choose still air hand made manual incubators if interested can also guide how to make an incubator but for this you have to wait till March end.

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sardar shahbaz
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi, by small ducks if you mean normal mix bred ducks which we find in our local markets or villages, they are very good setters and have high fertility rate,very hardy and yes good layers too around 120 eggs per yr in rough conditions,i'm keeping them for 30 yrs now,mostly we have a mix of indian runner x muscovy x peckin and an occacional mix of mallard (surkhab) too here in pakistan,the females reach maturity after 8 months and males after 12 to 14 months (i do not know of any duck reaching maturity at 4 months!! maybe fancy ones), if you do not remove the eggs from the nest the female will sit, after hatching they take their chicks straight to water,they love swimming so have some small pond ready too,,try some eggs in incubator too but you'll have to change water and keep it clean after every hatching,and disinfect it too,its a tiresome job for newbies,but for gaining experience try it,and see the results of mother hatching too, just keep the envoirment clean as 90% of disease and mortality can be contained,white wash the huts,(un ke khuday mein choona kero)
chinese geese (big ducks) are also setters but if you have an incubator first keep some eggs in it and then let the female sit keep away from distraction and any animal that may eat eggs, in pakistan's hot climate they lay 30 to 40 eggs per year in 2 or three clutches give them good feed and they eat a lot of grass actually they are grazers like goats.do not give them any kind of medicine or vaccine because they are very hardy by introducing vaccines you'll make their immune system weak,in pakistan we do not have diseases of ducks for which they are vaccinated because we do not have that many birds in pakistan niether there is any research on it,in simple keep it clean and good feed,
for incubator try contacting nadeem incubators in lahore ,i don't know where you are but you can find there address in OLX site so search there plz.tell them you need a small 50 egg capacity incubator,remember incubated chicks are more demanding than natural born.so, get a brooder too! this hobby can be very simple just by providing good clean healthy envoirment for the birds and can be very challenging and demanding a lot of time n money by going for experience,upto you, good luck, have a nice day
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i really enjoyed reading ur reply
i m not duck lover but i like ur advice and ur information


keep it up
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atifsalone

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:34 am    Post subject: White Ducks Breeding Reply with quote

Thanks....
I like the way u explain...Thank u very much..

Please let me know one more thing...how can we make money from ducks. I have a very good setup for ducks ( Very natural). If you guide me how to make money form Duck , I will be grateful to u.


Can I know about your location.....

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Atif
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lovelylovely

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have 5 goose as well
bought them in dec and already i have 5 kids out of eggs they did it real fast

here is an old link
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=190720&id=633450630

and just uploaded tiny clip here too, that i made today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghEJ6wgR0bg
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sardar shahbaz
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello ppl,thanks for your remarks, i'm an occasional visitor here and very seldom reply plz do not mind my behavior and absence as i do not have ample time to read or reply to posts, i am not an authority on ducks,its just simple experience which i have noticed because i'm keeping them on my farm, i've never deeply studied their behavior,ok,so,
dear atifsalone i'm sorry i cannot help you in duck keeping business and will never advise you to go for it too, i never keep than 50 or 60 birds just for the sake of liking them and an occasional roast.
it is my observation,ppl. in pakistan do not like duck or geese meat and reason is that most birds come from small farmers or from suburbs (kachi basti)of a big city where sanitation is big problem,they eat algae (kaee) and drink drain water and swim in drain ponds(ganday talab),so they do have smell in them,that is why chicken is preferred,its all in the mind (even i'll not eat a duck which swam in front of me in a ganda talab)
then unfortunately there is a considerable amount of jahil ppl. who think ducks ,turkeys guinea fowls and rabbits are haram(Astaghfirullah) i'm sure the ppl. who will read this might or already have come
across somebody jahil in their lifetime.
anyway,if there is demand in karachi and you are sure that you can sell your birds and eggs and run your farm like a poultry chicken farm, then the easy way is to import birds from abroad,because you cannot find a uniform number of birds in pakistan to start a farm of 2000 birds,(this is the number you need for a viable running farm).
china is close to us and they have very huge duck farms,but with the outbreak of birdflu i'm not sure pak. govt. will allow to import chinese white pekin duck or chinese white goose these breeds are used
worldwide for duck n goose farming.
france has actually done a lot of research on pekin duck and have developed a heavey strain.they lay more eggs and they gain weight quickly nearly like broilers,they also have their famous Toulouse geese
which are much bigger than chinese geese.
grimuad freres of france is a very huge company,under it run many other companies which work around the world,in pakistan hubbard gives broiler chickens.
you can contact grimuad freres and visit their site http://www.grimaudfreres.com
but first inquire with provincial and federal livestock departments,there is too much red tape involved.
my dear i'm not trying to dis heart you,just telling you what i know,if you are passionate about duck farming find market and breed birds,now saying this makes very simple but when you dig deep into something the many unfolded pages tell a new story,its our govt.'s fault that they did not promoted any other bird except chickens, having said that chicken is the fastest way for producing meat n eggs and profitable too.
now (desi tareeka)if you have market,willing to jump into ducks, buy 100 local healthy birds 1 male for every 3 females in geese and 4 females in small ducks,a pond 4 feet deep 30 ft by 50ft(the filling of the pond and keeping the water level is important) note pond is necessary for ducks you can raise geese without pond.they will need 2 acres of grass to graze,4 kanal mud walled 6ft enclosure,for small ducks make their huts(3x3x3)size 8ft away around pond,white wash the huts from inside n out for geese 4x4x4 if you want them to sit on eggs make artificial nests one mud brick square 2x2ft spread some wheat straw in it,give them fresh clean water,chicken layer feed with lot of grass chopped(berseem and lucern and do plant mott grass 1 acre in april or august it is the best green fodder in the world,available in pakistan too,you'll have to plant 9inch cuttings at 45deg.angle with 18inch row and 18inch plant distance, its perennial(paka boota)looks like jawar but very nourishing,your cattle,goats,ducks n geese will love it,gives 5 to 6 cuttings per yr.change place after every 4 yrs or it grows huge n wide)you can also herd them to graze weeds(jari booti),hire a young boy he can handle them like goats,keep away from cultivated vegetables,well,more or less thats about it,(plz. keep in mind the land used the grass growing ex pence and above all the pond filling costs are high as compared to profit)if you have any Qs. i'll try to answer them upto my knowledge,i'm sure there r ppl' who have a lot of bird keeping experience they'll help you.
good luck,have a nice day
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lovelylovely

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

very informative

overall its not a good suggestion to start a farm of ducks and geese

shahbaz bhai my goose only love to eat red rice and offcourse lucen they love

its getting expensive for me to give them red rice they eat too much and my habbit is i give them as much they can eat

can u advice some thing for them or what i can grow for them have some little space for gardening
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atifsalone

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:23 am    Post subject: White Ducks Breeding Reply with quote

Thanks Mr. Shahbaz.
Now thought process has been started. I will start the process very soon and then contact u. Can you please give me ur email address.

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atifsalone

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:22 am    Post subject: White Ducks Breeding Reply with quote

Dear Mr. Shahbaz.
Recently I faced a problem, My duck is hatching 12 eggs, it about 30 days gone but last week I saw 6 eggs are broken and there is nothing in eggs. I though duck has eaten the eggs but 2 days ago my farmer told me that he saw some rat (mouses) there they bite my duck as well ( but not a serious injury). Please guide me, how can I safe my ducks from rats.

The cages are open , not properly fix coz its in a village area.

Is there any way to keep the mouse away from ducks and hen.

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ATif
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